Domestic Partnership is fair…right?
California Domestic Partnership
As of 2007, California affords domestic partnerships all of the same rights and responsibilities as marriages under state law (Cal. Fam. Code §297.5). Among these:
* Making health care decisions for each other in certain circumstances
* Hospital and jail visitation rights that were previously reserved for family members related by blood, adoption or marriage to the sick, injured or incarcerated person.
* Access to family health insurance plans (Cal. Ins. Code §10121.7)
* Spousal insurance policies (auto, life, homeowners etc..), this applies to all forms of insurance through the California Insurance Equality Act (Cal. Ins. Code §381.5)
* Sick care and similar family leave
* Stepparent adoption procedures
* Presumption that both members of the partnership are the parents of a child born into the partnership
* Suing for wrongful death of a domestic partner
* Rights involving wills, intestate succession, conservator-ships and trusts
* The same property tax provisions otherwise available only to married couples (Cal. R&T Code §62p)
* Access to some survivor pension benefits
* Supervision of the Superior Court of California over dissolution and nullity proceedings
* The obligation to file state tax returns as a married couple (260k) commencing with the 2007 tax year (Cal R&T Code §18521d)
* The right for either partner to take the other partner’s surname after registration
* Community property rights and responsibilities previously only available to married spouses
* The right to request partner support (alimony) upon dissolution of the partnership (divorce)
* The same parental rights and responsibilities granted to and imposed upon spouses in a marriage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership_in_California
In my opinion:
Looks to me like domestic partnership is pretty much the same. Domestic partnership is a term used to describe same sex marriage in my eyes. Just like bigamy is the unlawful act of having two or more wives or husbands at the same time, usually with the second not knowing about the first. Polygamy is the practice of having multiple wives based on religious beliefs, with all wives aware of, and agreeable to, the husband having several wives. Civil unions, common law marriages, etc. are among these various terms used to describe different types of marriages.
In essence the comparison used with the Brown vs. Board of education "separate but equal" plight that gays try to use to compare their argument is not a fair comparison. Were gays being kept from attending the school of their chose just because they are gay? Were gays demanded to sit at the back of the bus or give up their seat because they are gay? Were gays hung on trees, blown up in churches, unable to vote just because they are gay? Were gays ever unable to drink from the "whites only" water fountain just because they are gay? Were gays forced to work as slaves because they are gay? The list goes on…THERE IS NO COMPARISON! Boundaries have to be created in order to establish some form of limit that keeps chaos from ensuing. The vote has been cast for a second time to establish what the majority wants (not just one race, but all walks of life were included in this vote). America doesn’t make it legal for genders of the opposite sex to commit bigamy, incest, statutory rape, etc. All these are acts that the members of the opposite sex can "want" to do, but can be arrested for doing. Are gays being arrest for their lifestyle? Looks like they have many rights granted to their situation already to suit much of what they want. Demanding the term marriage to include same sex marriage is forcing society to give a mile when many inches of fairness have already been granted.
It’s not marriage.
It’s not the same.
It’s not equality.
No, it is not fair.
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What is marriage? Why do we want it? Why cant we just be in love……spend your lifes together, dont waste time on a marriage, just to prove you love eachother. I would enjoy going on a date just as much as getting married…..I bought my boyfriend a ring, and he was the happiest I have ever seen him. There is no reason to get married, gay or straight, love is already there, and there is no need to prove it.
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Prop 8 is really great
It’s not marriage.
It’s not the same.
It’s not equality.
No, it is not fair.
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Just to take up a few of your points :
"gays being arrest for their lifestyle? " Until very recent it was illegal to engage in homosexual activity in quite a number of states. In many other countries homosexuals are persecuted and even executed for being gay.
"Were gays being kept from attending the school of their chose just because they are gay?"
Quite a number of gay people get bullied in school and end up dropping out. The problem has become so widespread that Chicago is now contemplating opening "gay-only" schools
"Were gays hung on trees, blown up in churches, unable to vote just because they are gay? "
Unfortunately there have been many, many incidents of murders of people due to their sexual orientation. Search the internet and you’ll find details.
And re the "civil unions are good enough" argument : What would you say if black people were only allowed to have civil unions, but not marriages ? Would that be good enough as well ?
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A different name implies a different meaning. What would you rather here… "Will you marry me?" or "Will you domestic partner me?" There is no valid reason against same sex marriage and most are based on religion. Religion and state in a secular govt should be kept seperate.
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‘Nuff said.
There used to be a practice called separate but equal. It was where black people were provided the same facilities, but separate from whites. Offering a marriage under a different name is tantamount to that. If the government is willing to offer all of the same benefits as marriage, why not call it that? It doesn’t make sense. To me, it’s like allowing Jews or any other race to be able to purchase anything they want from your store…but only on Tuesday. They would still be getting to purchase the same products, but only when you say it is o.k. They still get all of the benefits of shopping there, but only under your conditions. That is called discrimination, and so is not allowing homosexuals the right to have their union titled "marriage." I still don’t see why people care. Personally, it doesn’t matter to me…I’d rather see all of this bickering stop, and have the money spent on all of this donated to charity.
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